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Infinite Love is a nonprofit social welfare organization founded in the Spring of 2021 by former NASA researcher Nathan Buckley. Our primary purpose is to help raise awareness to the problems facing our world today and—most importantly—how we can fix them working together.

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What is

Infinite Love?

Infinite Love is a non-profit organization and a growing community of people dedicated to creating a world where everyone can thrive, and we are working towards that goal in two ways. The first way (and arguably the most important) is through raising awareness, which we do through our podcast (Anchor.fm/YouTube) where we talk about various economic, social, and cultural issues with the overall goal of sharing meaningful insights about life that help us grow as individuals and ultimately move us all closer towards a more prosperous future. Our second approach, currently in the planning stages, is to design and build an intentional community — a community designed from the ground up to have a high degree of social cohesion based on cooperation, shared purpose, and mutual support; one that provides a safe, loving environment where we can grow to be the best version of ourselves and foster authentic and lasting connections with others; and one that is not only ecologically, socially, and economically sustainable but also resilient and adaptable. You can skip down to the section describing our community goals in more detail if you wish, but to really make sure you understand where our hearts are coming from and why any of this matters — we recommend you start with the following short essay by our founder.

3600 words, ~12m read time, 100% worth it.

There are also audio versions* of this introduction if you prefer to listen to it instead:

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*Note: There have been minor updates to the essay since the audio recordings were taken, and as such they may not perfectly reflect what you see below. However, the overall thrust of the message remains the same.

(The Problems)

The World Today

Each and every one of us has been born into a given historical reality, ruled by particular norms and values, and managed by a unique economic and political system. We take this reality for granted, thinking it is natural, inevitable and immutable. We forget that our world was created by an accidental chain of events, and that history shaped not only our technology, politics and society, but also our thoughts, fears and dreams. The cold hand of the past emerges from the grave of our ancestors, grips us by the neck and directs our gaze towards a single future. We have felt that grip from the moment we were born, so we assume that it is a natural and inescapable part of who we are. Therefore we seldom try to shake ourselves free, and envision alternative futures.
– Yuval Noah Harari

We live in a rather peculiar and challenging period in the timeline of humanity. Peculiar because the way humanity operates is quite odd — even paradoxical — in many respects, and challenging because the many problems we face are complicated by our distinct lack of unity. Although we generally pride ourselves on our intelligence as the dominant species on our planet, the idea of a formal education for everyone was not widely recognized as important until relatively recently: just 200 years ago almost 90% of the world population aged 15 years and older was illiterate, and today that number is still around 10-15%. The picture gets substantially worse when you look at education levels beyond the mere ability to read and write basic sentences: 1 in 3 children globally will not go beyond an elementary school education, while 1/2 will not go beyond middle school. Although we have come a long way from the barbarism of our prehistoric ancestors in terms of technology, we are still not that far from their savagery and brutality. Though we are capable of great compassion, our societies continue to be structured around selfishness and greed as they have for thousands of years in which the bulk of wealth — and ultimately power — remains concentrated in the hands of a few. Though we have the benefit of a rich and expressive language, many of us fail to use it effectively: one glance at the public discourse on mainstream TV or social media and you'll find near endless amounts of toxic communication. Though we all generally want the same things — to be happy and prosper — we still fight amongst ourselves in war and trade, and even in peace our nations merely pretend to get along while we continue to spy on, hack, and sow discord among each other in secret. This is all especially tragic given that we already have the means to build a world where everyone — and I mean everyone — can prosper. Imagine the wealthiest person alive today and the luxuries they most likely enjoy: the freedom to pursue the life they want and work or not work as they please, to be able to live luxuriously, to be able to have the most delicious foods every day, to be able to access the best technology and comforts the world can offer — humanity possess the means to provide that and more to every human being on the planet from the moment we are born, but for various reasons people aren't aware that it's possible, so we continue in our old, broken ways.

The central purpose of Infinite Love is to help guide us towards this world where everyone can flourish, and though there may be many paths to reach that goal, in my view it begins by addressing how we structure our lives and how we treat each other.

How We Structure Our Lives:


None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
– Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Have you ever deeply thought about how we live our lives as human beings? We enter the world as infants knowing nothing about living, and so we're educated by our parents, teachers, and those around us on the best ways to have a successful life, and ultimately we are sent into the world to do just that. Many of us are even encouraged to pursue what we're passionate about, but what's not usually mentioned is that you can only realistically do so in a way that fits within the rigid definition of living that is available to us. For me, it was already clear by the time I reached high school what that was: I had to go to school and get good grades, go to a good college and get a degree, get a good job and earn a big salary, work until I've earned enough money, and then I will have had a successful life. Everything boiled down to money, because money is needed for virtually everything, and although it was expected that somewhere in there I would also find a partner, get married, buy a house, and have kids, the goal of all my schooling and the career I was going to have was to reach financial freedom — to be able to live life the way I want, free of financial concerns. Think about that, for a moment: the goal of our lives is to be free; we are not free by default. And indeed, unless we want to live a life of poverty absent of all the comforts we enjoy, we are forced to work (and usually not our first choice of jobs). In other words, we must spend the vast majority of our lives — the prime of our lives, in fact — from childhood throughout adulthood, most of us working jobs we have little real interest in to earn enough money so that at the ripe old age of retirement we are finally free to live our lives the way we want to. Mind you, this is if we're fortunate enough to actually have saved enough to retire comfortably — many are not so fortunate, and the last years of life are not characterized by luxury, comfort, or freedom, but instead by a struggle to make ends meet until old age and frailty remove the last hope of being able to live the life we want.

Why are we okay with this?

It strikes me that for whatever reason, most people must not have seriously considered how we should be spending what precious little time we have on this Earth, because if they had, surely they would have recognized that being forced to work for the vast majority of our lives just to survive — not thrive, mind you, just survive, as even in "rich" countries like the U.S. most people live paycheck to paycheck — so we can hopefully earn enough to be free in old age is not the way of living we should be aiming for. Or perhaps people have thought of it, and have concluded in some warped way that the benefits outweigh the downsides, or worse — that there is no other way available. I think more realistically, however, that most people are just bumbling through life more or less as we were instructed, without really considering the big picture, just as I was most of my life. Although many of us do recognize that a life that revolves around money is not a life we want — indeed we may tell ourselves as I did that we'll focus on having a positive impact in the world through in our career — at the end of the day we still work to live and ultimately we continue to enable the very system that enslaves us. In fact, many of us even at this very moment are telling our children — or we fully intend to when we have them someday — that they too need to go to school, get good grades so they can get into a good college, and ultimately get a good job so they can earn money over the course of most of their lives so they can ultimately be happy. It's not wrong, per se — you really do need to earn money to live comfortably today, and being comfortable certainly makes it easier to be happy — but it doesn't have to be this way. We are just blindly continuing this cycle over and over, never stopping to consider if there's a better alternative. The truth is, humanity easily possesses the necessary talent, resources, and industries of scale to create a world of freedom (to pursue our lives the way we want) and abundance (to be able to have all the things we want) for everyone, without the need for money at all — we need only put our minds together and build it. However, before we can truly flourish, we must also take the time to reflect on our attitudes towards each other, because it is these very attitudes that have gotten us to where we are today, and to do that we need to reframe our understanding of life and what — or rather, who — it's all about.

How We Treat Each Other:

From Me To Us

The world as we have created it is a process of our thinking. It cannot be changed without changing our thinking.
– Albert Einstein

Whether we realize it or not, most of us have been conditioned to believe that life is all about the individual — ourselves — and this idea permeates much of our societies and how we behave. From our earliest moments, life is structured as a competition — a way to rank individuals so they can be compared to each other: we compete with each other in school and between schools for the best test scores, grades, and in school sports and activities. We then compete against each other to get into the best colleges, and thereafter to get into the best graduate programs, and thereafter the best jobs, and then for the best promotions, and the best places to live. Even ignoring the absurdity of competition in itself, we hardly stop to reflect that when one of us gets into the college we want, someone else doesn't. When one of us gets the job we want, everyone else has to keep looking. We are so preoccupied with what we can gain for ourselves we've forgotten how much we depend on each other for our success. In fact, our competition with each other has made it such that differences in wealth — the fancy clothing we wear, the cars we drive, the houses we buy — rather than being indicators of shameful levels of inequality, are status symbols: something to proudly display for all to see. The reality is, however, that these differences in equality only demonstrate how naive we are as a species, because the unequal distribution of resources doesn't just hold back those who end up with less — in the long run it holds back everyone.

Note: Of all the links in this essay, if there's any to actually check out it's the last one — the referenced video demonstrates among several things how wealth inequality holds back all of us, regardless of where you fall on the wealth spectrum.

Imagine if you were tasked to create a single piece of human technology — for simplicity, let's start with a simple metal fork. Of course, most people probably have a general sense of what shape it should be, but how would you actually create it? Do you have any idea how to extract metal ore from rocks? Do you know which metals to look for and where to look for them? Do you know what precise combinations of metals and nonmetals (e.g. carbon) create the right kind of alloy that won't rust? Do you know how to actually forge metal into the shape of a fork and make sure it's smooth? Though relatively simple, a fork still requires a great deal of knowledge to create from start to finish, from geology to metallurgy to blacksmithing — knowledge we've been accumulating and refining over thousands of years. Now imagine if you had to do this yourself for everything you possess: your spoons, your plates, your pencils, your clothing, your bed, your cellphone, your car, your house… you could spend your entire life and only build a handful of items, and virtually none at the same quality as you have today. As individuals we can only do so much, we can only know so much, but together we are able to fill our lives to the brim with technology — and most of it is a lot more complicated than a fork. How is this possible? It is not merely because we have more people to build things, because even with billions of people if everyone still had to make their own fork and spoon and plate and bed and cellphone, we'd still be nowhere close to where we are today. Nor is the answer simply "mass production", because mass production still requires significant human involvement at the very least in the development of the technology, but far more often than not also in the actual manufacturing process. The real answer is synergy: effectively working together to produce something greater than the sum of what we could do independently.

Commonly expressed in the phrase, "the whole is greater than the sum of its parts", synergy is closely related to the concept of emergence in which — when you have things working together in just the right way — you get something new and unique that none of the individual components has or can do. Consider, for example, the human brain: it is made up of various cells (neurons, glia, etc.) which themselves are ultimately composed of biomolecules such as proteins and nucleic acids, which themselves are composed of various atoms. Atoms are microscopic, lifeless chemical elements, and yet when these atoms work together in just the right way, they produce your mind — something completely new and unique that none of the individual components has. The same thing happens when you have a group of individuals who work together in just the right way — you get towns and cities, and when enough towns and cities work together you get civilizations which can produce wonders that far exceed the abilities of any individual or city, and that's how we are able to fill our lives to the brim with technology. We go through life as if it's all about ourselves — we focus on what we want to do as individuals — but in doing so we fail to appreciate that the true source of our strength and the source of all our accomplishments isn't the individual, but the collective. This is not to say that individuals do not matter or that life should only be about the collective, but simply that even if you only care about yourself, you nevertheless benefit the most when everyone else is set up to succeed just as much as you are.

It's especially tragic then that so many people seem to act only in the interest of themselves or those close to them rather than in the interest of everyone, because doing so ultimately hurts them just as much as everyone else in the long run. This is because although there is some synergy in our societies today, it's only a small fraction of the synergy that we could have because synergy is not just an on-off switch — it's not a matter of if we work together, it's a matter of how well we work together. There are degrees of synergy — degrees in the effectiveness of collaboration — and when some people in a society are healthy and happy while others struggle to make ends meet, our synergy is only partially realized. And this is the world we are in today: a world where the primary focus is the individual, where selfish interests like money and power inherently create inequalities between people, and where most people are effectively slaves to their wages for the vast majority of their lives. It's a world full of greed, envy, distrust, manipulation, and so much suffering; where people cooperate only because they're paid to cooperate; where most companies only promote social welfare when there's profit in it; and where societies function not because everyone wants to do their job, but because they have to in order to survive.

What's worse, these issues I've highlighted thus far are just the beginning of our problems: Equally troubling is how we continue to ignore our climate scientists and devastate the environment through our reckless use of fossil fuels. We are polluting, overfishing, and acidifying our oceans and destroying precious rainforest in exchange for farmland that ultimately saps the land of its fertility and often leads to further damage to our marine resources. We all felt the impact of COVID-19, which as of this writing (August 2021) has killed approximately 4.3 million people since it began a little more than a year and a half ago. Now consider that air pollution kills nearly the same number of people every year and takes an average of 3 years off all our lives. We continue to generate disgusting amounts of trash and I see no major drive to create a standard for packages and containers to facilitate recycling, or major efforts to educate people on the benefits of composting. Our education systems continue to be based on archaic learning models, focusing on test-taking and cramming technical knowledge which quickly becomes obsolete while spectacularly failing to provide us actually useful life skills such as critical reading & thinking, communicating effectively, dealing with emotions and stress, or forming and nourishing healthy relationships, to name a few. Our healthcare systems in many parts of the world are embarrassingly broken, and on top of all this, our governments are supposed to take the lead and make sure all these problems we face get fixed — but most are so poorly designed that real change is slow, if it happens at all. Our leaders continue to debate pointless issues like how to increase taxes or how to combat inflation when money doesn't even need to exist in the first place. Our election systems are structured in such a way that people who clearly have no interest in anyone but themselves can be elected, even as presidents and prime ministers. Worldwide, the divide between political parties only seems to be deepening and the threats to our democracies increasing, if we're fortunate enough to live in a democracy at all.

Is this the kind of world we want to live in?

Note: If you're wondering how we got to where we are today, it's complicated — but you may find this article on Modernization enlightening, especially the section on Work and the Family which explains the rise of industrialization, individualism, and the labor economy.

I Understand Now But…

What Can We Do?

Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.
– Margaret Mead

With all the problems we face, it's easy to feel overwhelmed or as if there is no hope for the future, but one need not despair: the good news is that by many accounts we are slowly but surely progressing in a positive direction in terms of various indicators such as global education, infant mortality, and world hunger. What's more, even though changing the policies and institutions of entire nations will likely take a long time, we can solve most of the problems almost immediately on a local scale by creating our own communities. Even with minimal resources, a well-designed community could vastly improve the lives of its members through the synergy of effective collaboration combined with the efficiencies brought on by technology, automation, and industries of scale, and we can build that today — all we need is a suitable plot of land and enough people to help design it.

So to sum:

By now you should have a clearer understanding of what we're all about, and if you've paid close enough attention to history you probably recognize that the central message of Infinite Love is the same message that has been echoed many times throughout the ages across numerous religions and philosophies, from Stoicism to Christianity to Buddhism, from Kant to Gandhi to the Peace Pilgrim, along with numerous others: It is both the undeniable recognition that virtually everything that we have in life comes from those before us and from those around us — in other words, that we flourish individually only when we flourish collectively — but it is also a deep, personal realization that the only life worth living is one built on the foundations of love and compassion for all. Love is borderless and infinite, and it is the strongest type of bond that can exist between people, for it is only through love that people will go the greatest lengths for each other. It fosters trust and a willingness to be vulnerable, to be open, and honest; it fosters a respect that is indifferent to a person's status or position in life; and perhaps most importantly, it fosters a deep, selfless concern for the well-being of others, the kind only love can impart.

I founded Infinite Love because I want to remind people of the strength and potential of our unity, to raise awareness of the prevailing issues of our time, and to create not only a world of freedom and abundance for everyone, but one of unparalleled human achievement. I don't pretend to have the answers to every problem we face, and like everyone else I'm still figuring things out as I go along — but I know now that I can no longer find fulfillment in spending my waking hours working on things that don't really matter in the face of so much more important work to do. What's more, I realize now that I don't have to do it alone, for I know there are many people out there who see the world as I do and want change just as much as I do — I'm EXCITED to see what we can do!

Is it going to be easy? No, probably not. It will require us to confront very difficult questions about ourselves and how we treat each other. It will require us coming face to face with our flaws, our imperfections, and the darker realities of our current affairs. There will be many obstacles along the way, and many people from all around the world will have to be involved, but I have no doubt that in the end we will succeed, because — as history has already shown us — we can accomplish magnificent things when we work together.

The only question is: Will you help us?

Ever Warmly,
Your Friend and Ally,

Nathan Buckley



The question ever on our minds is: what is the best way to reach this future of prosperity we know is possible? We consider it an open question in that it is never really answered, but rather it's something we work towards bit by bit. After much investigation and deliberation, we've come to realize first and foremost the importance of raising awareness, which is why it forms the bedrock of much of our efforts. At the same time, we recognize that there are benefits to be had here and now for the many of us in this movement who already understand the issues and who are already driven to make the world a better place, and those benefits are derived from living in a community with like-minded people who are working together towards our shared vision of the future.

As we move forward, we are always open to new ideas, new approaches to take, and new partnerships that will enable us to reach this world of prosperity that we all want. We're not fixated on any one path towards the future. If you're part of another organization or project that has a similar vision for the future, we encourage you to reach out to us to see how we can collaborate and support each other. 👍

Research & Outreach

We believe there are many ways in which the world and our lives can be improved, but it's not enough to simply state that — we must also prove it. That is why research & outreach will always be a core part of the Infinite Love mission. Our primary method of outreach is via social media: We currently focus on producing a podcast where we talk about a wide range of topics, from social and cultural issues, life philosophy, mental health and well-being, and solutions that bring us closer to the world where everyone can thrive. This podcast is often also created with a video component which can be seen on our YouTube channel, along with some content posted to our Instagram and facebook, and we are actively trying to expand to other platforms and types of content as well.


While raising awareness to issues is crucial, we want to do more than just get people to understand the problems — we actually want to fix them. But changing how nations operate — let alone the entire world — is going to be a slow process, one that's going to involve navigating the complex social and political structures of nations around the world. However, that doesn't mean we should punt the problem down the road, and it doesn't mean we can't fix it for ourselves right away.

That is why one of our efforts is to design and build an intentional community. While at first we will focus on the basic necessities of living by designing and creating energy efficient shelters, effective permaculture and food generation systems, and renewable energy systems, eventually we want to expand to all aspects of life and design better education systems, healthcare systems, transportation systems, governence systems, and more. By doing so we will demonstrate that it's indeed possible to create a flourishing community to the extent we claim: one where everyone has everything they need and all the comforts they can reasonably ask for; where you can follow your passions without having to concern yourself with money or having to make sure you and your loved ones have all their needs met (that'll be a given); where a day's work is largely as long as you want it to be because the synergy of effective collaboration, combined with excellent design, and strategic automation has reduced labor needs; where everything is free, and in fact there is no system of currency, or really much of a concept of individual property ownership at all (most things — aside from undergarments, toothbrushes, and other such personal items — can be shared); where education is no longer tedious and test-oriented, but instead a life-long activity that is actually fun and relevant; where the structure and operation of everything is always open to question, modification, and improvement; where crime is virtually non-existent because who needs to commit crime when their needs are met?; where one is confident that the systems in place to keep everything running smoothly and the people entrusted with the authority to oversee them are always working in the best interest of everyone.

Moreover, by building a community we will then be able to serve as a model for other communities and nations around the world, for once people see that it can be done, no one will want to live the way they do now — not even billionaires — and that's what we are really trying to emphasize here: no one today, not even the most wealthy, most fortunate people in the world flourish to the extent they could if they were to live in a community such as we propose. And as an additional benefit, it will serve as an ideal base of operations with which to continue addressing our goals.

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Frequently Asked


You say that we can change our world so that everyone enjoys a higher standard of living than billionaires today… that's ridiculous! How is that possible?
Neither the great political and financial power structures of the world, nor the specialization-blinded professionals, nor the population in general realize that...it is now highly feasible to take care of everybody on earth at a “higher standard of living than any have ever known”. It no longer has to be you or me. Selfishness is unnecessary and henceforth unrationalizable...
– R. Buckminster Fuller, 1981

Well first let's establish what is the standard of living billionaires enjoy today, and though not every billionaire lives the same way, let's just try to imagine the best-case scenario:

  • They likely have a really nice house with all the latest technology and innovation the world can offer.
  • They likely have many cars, probably also yachts, and various airplanes.
  • They likely have a great deal of support staff to assist them in their lives, such as personal chefs who cook delicious meals for them every day, cleaning staff who keep their large house spotless, car drivers, butlers, maybe a personal pilot or two to fly their jets, perhaps even a dedicated PR team to handle all their social media.
  • They probably have access to the best healthcare not limited by any money or insurance plan
  • Their money can buy them the best education on the planet; most universities allow big donors to effectively pay for admission.

That's more or less the essence of it — access to the world's best technology and comforts. Sounds wonderful, right? Sure, but keep in mind that billionaires live in the same world the rest of us do and the technology and comforts they use depend on the innovation from the rest of us, and the fact is that the vast majority of people are not really in a position to innovate. Most people around the world are quite poor, they are not particularly healthy, and have limited or no access to education. According to Oxfam:

  • Almost half of humanity is living on less than $5.50 per day. Almost HALF! That's nearly 4 billion people.
  • 1 out of every 5 children will not be allowed to go to school at all.
  • Every day, 10,000 people die because they lack access to affordable healthcare.
  • Each year, 100 million people are forced into extreme poverty due to healthcare costs.

As I stated in the introduction, according to Unicef 1 in 3 children globally will not go beyond an elementary school education, while 1/2 will not go beyond middle school. According to a report by the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations, over 2 billion people on the planet are subsistence farmers, which means most of their farming efforts goes towards providing for themselves and their family, with little to no surplus. It's not a bold claim to say that by and large, the lives of these people provide virtually no benefit to you, and the same can be said for the lives of billions of other people in the world who aren't necessarily poor farmers. In the United States — a country widely considered to be one of the most developed and productive countries in the world — anywhere from 50-75% of people are living paycheck to paycheck, and by any reasonable interpretation these people are in poverty. By and large, people in poverty do not have the luxury to pursue their passions or innovate to any great degree — certainly not to the same degree they could if they were thriving. Though the inequality in "wealthy" countries like the United States is not as extreme as it is in others, there is still a massive gap in wealth, health, and education between those at the top and those at the bottom.

What does this mean? Or more precisely, why is this bad for you specifically, especially if you are reasonably well off (or a billionaire)? The answer is because of the nature of human progress and innovation. Virtually all of the technology you see today, all the progress we make in science—and to a great extent the arts as well—comes from people who are in a place in their lives where they are capable of inventing and advancing science. Science is done by scientists, most of which have extensive educational training. New technology is invented not by poor farmers, homeless people, or those enfeebled by their lack of healthcare, but by people who have the education, healthcare, and resources to do so. Even the ability to pursue art is somewhat of a luxury today, not something that is often able to be taken up by those who don't have homes or regular access to food, let alone access to musical instruments. The point is: The progress of humanity is really only being pushed forward by a relatively small fraction of people on the planet—we could be generous and say the top 10% of people on the planet meaningfully contribute to all the technological and scientific innovation in the world (and that's pushing it). Billionaires are rich, yes, but that's because they live in a world that favors the few at the expense of the rest, and at great cost because what we end up with is a world in which there exists only a small fraction of people who are really in any place to push humanity forward.

Now imagine that wasn't the case. Imagine instead of today's economic system (which allows a few people to thrive while most people languish) we designed our system to spread resources equally. Instead of 10% of the world innovating, we had 100%. Think of just how much faster science and technology would advance, how much better our lives would be if we had 10x more people working on things, and with collaboration instead of competition between ourselves and our companies, we could see unrivaled levels of productivity and human progress...

This is the kind of world we at Infinite Love want to create: where everyone will be able to live in houses filled to the brim with the latest technology and comforts. Entire walls will be TV screens, our digital assistants will actually be smart and useful (and we can have an infinite amount of them), our cars and planes will drive and fly themselves, even our food will eventually be prepared by robotic chefs that cook as well as any human can. Our healthcare will be better because we'll know so much more about human physiology and our diets will be tailored to our individual needs to a degree we simply can't do today. The best education will be freely available to anyone online, and everyone will have access to it. Most importantly, people will be free to pursue their own passions because they won't be forced to take just any job they can get to survive, since they are already provided what they need to thrive. The world will be truly a world of abundance, and it will enable a standard of living far, far better than what billionaires enjoy today.

For an awesome video that perhaps describes this idea even more clearly than us, we highly recommend you check out Egoistic Altruism by Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell.

How will the world survive without money?

It's easy to understand why one might believe that money is crucial to our continued survival: Money is everywhere, and it is needed for virtually everything. But you should understand that it has not always been this way, and in fact, money is a relatively new occurrence. Humans in our current form have existed for around 300,000 years, in which most of the time goods were gifted to others or exchanged for other goods. Money in the form we think of it today ("representative money") likely first came into existence around the time of the first cities like Mesopotamia in 3000 BC. As of this writing it is the year 2022, so 3000 BC is 5022 years ago, which means money has existed for approximately 5022/300,000 years, or 1.67% of human existence. We clearly do not need money to survive.

So why does it exist today? Well, because it was very useful for a long time: it is a convenient way to exchange goods and services. There's nothing wrong with money in and of itself, it's just how the system co-evolved with other changes in society throughout history. At the same time as money entered the picture, there immediately began to exist great disparities in wealth between people. Before money, before the agricultural revolution, you could only possess what you could carry with your family or social group as you moved from place to place, hunting and gathering and living off the land. With the agricultural revolution we discovered how to sow crops and make farms, which made it so staying in the same place was largely more desirable than constantly moving around because we could simply grow what we needed in place instead of having to forage for it naturally. Instead of hunting wild game, which moved from place to place with the seasons and fluctuating availability of resources, we could raise our own livestock in one place as well. Staying in one place also meant you could erect more permanent housing structures and storage units for all the crops you were harvesting. Very quickly over the course of just a handful of generations there became a massive difference in wealth between individuals, with some having owned farms and many assets that had been passed down for generations and others starting off with next to nothing. We can see evidence of this simply by looking at great monuments and structures that have survived from ancient times: for example, the Great Pyramid of Giza was constructed in approximately 2600 BC, just 400 years after money was first introduced. Such structures were all built by emperors and rulers who had amassed great wealth, while most others had very little.

As time passed, these differences in wealth did not disappear; in fact, in many ways they became more entrenched. The challenge for everyone else was that people with wealth also have influence, which ultimately translated to power — they can afford to pay people to do virtually whatever they need, whether that means recruiting mercenaries and raising armies, paying assassins to kill rivals, bribing politicians to write laws, etc. — and with that they could ensure that they remained wealthy and powerful. And this is exactly what happened and exactly where we are today — in fact, we still have countries with royalty — ancient lines of families with great wealth — and they enjoy much the same privileges today as they did in the past. To be clear: there is nothing wrong with having wealth in itself, the problem is (as we stated in the answer to the previous question) that when wealth is unequally distributed—especially to the degree it is today—then we end up with many people who are not thriving and thus not not in a position to meaningfully contribute to human progress. We are only hobbling ourselves by hoarding wealth. We need a better system in place to ensure resources do not get concentrated and so that everyone can thrive and contribute to the progress of humanity, and such a system does not need to involve money at all, for what purpose would money have if everyone had the exact same amount of it? As soon as you introduce money, you create the conditions for some people to have more and some people to have less — and clearly this is not what we want.

How do we move away from it? Many argue for a natural law/resource-based economy (NLRBE) in which all resources in the world are established as the common heritage of humanity. The idea is to take a rational, scientific approach to intelligently managing and distributing resources in a way that is best suited for the long-term sustainability and growth of our planet and everyone on it. However, at the end of the day all we really need to do is restructure the world economy so we produce things for everyone, rather than merely doing it for ourselves (companies generally produce goods to make profit for the owners, not for the benefit of their consumers). As a species we have no trouble producing enough goods for everyone: factories pump out thousands of products every day with minimal human involvement. Most of the packaged food products you see in grocery stores were made in a factory that produces vast quantities of those foods that can feed far more people than is required to keep the factory running. Virtually everything in our lives is the same way, from our shoes to our cars to our cell phones, so there is no shortage of our ability to create things in bulk — we simply need to redirect our efforts from creating things to make personal profit to creating things to help people thrive, and in that way we won't be creating junk food and crappy products that are effectively planned to fail because the goal would not longer be to make the most money but to provide the most benefit to people. Obviously getting the world to switch to this alternative approach would be challenging if we were to merely try to convince politicians and business leaders in each country to make the change, which is why one of our goals at Infinite Love is simply to build a self-sustaining community ourselves and demonstrate that it's possible (to have a high standard of living without money). Once we do that, it's only a matter of time when more communities popup doing the same thing, and eventually the rest of the world will follow suit, for why would anyone want to live a life of tedious wage labor when they can have all the comforts of modernity and the freedom to pursue whatever life they want?

If people don't have to work, won't they be lazy?

First of all, to be clear we have no issue with labor in itself, we take issue with forced labor. Forced labor happens when you have to work simply because you otherwise won't be able to keep a roof over your head and food on the table, and so you get whatever job you can—you're lucky if that also ends up being the job you want to do. In our current economic system, this kind of labor is also largely work where the benefits primarily go to someone else and not the laborer — the executives at the top make far more money and more often than not do far less actual work than the people at the bottom. It is no less than modernized slavery, which is what the term "wage slavery" refers to. So when we say "people won't have to work", we're saying people won't be forced to work to survive, but that doesn't mean everyone's going to be sitting in hammocks doing nothing with their time. Of course people will be working on things, because that's our nature as humans: we are curious creatures, ever trying to understand the world around us and to make things easier for ourselves — the difference is that we'll be working on things that we want to work on.

Although it may be hard for some people to imagine—especially those who have only ever worked uninspiring and tedious jobs they have never had any passion for—but there are in fact many people who love doing their jobs. For society to function smoothly, various things need to be done: roads maintained, public transportation kept running, water and energy needs to keep flowing, recycling centers need to be operated, etc. The trick to doing it optimally is not by forcing whatever people you can to work and maintain those systems, but instead by matching people who like to do those things in the first place with those very things that need to be done. There may be a few undesirable tasks that no one desires to do in their own right, perhaps trash- or sewage-related jobs, but do you really think in a world of abundance where everyone is provided for and able to thrive that we won't have enough volunteers to do those remaining tasks to keep the system running smoothly? Do you really think that everyone will just let the trash build up and society collapse? We have zero doubt whatsoever that we'll have all the volunteers we need, and divided among many people this means very little actual work per person — certainly no one will be working 40 hours per week doing this kind of work. What's more, these systems won't require manual labor forever — in time no doubt our engineers will design better ways to manage such undesirable tasks so everyone is completely free to work on whatever their hearts desire.

Now does that mean everyone will be working on something all the time? No, almost certainly not. Some people may work more or less than others, some may prefer lives of leisure, and that's okay, because we don't need everyone working to keep society functioning, we just need a small subset of people — a subset that (like we said) will decrease over time as our technology gets better. The reality is that eventually, whether 50 or 150 or 1000 years from now, people will not have to work at all because of improvements in automation and AI. This isn't some overly-idealistic prediction; this is reality, and it's been happening at an increasing rate for a while now, especially in the last 100 years. Factories require fewer and fewer people, cars are getting closer and closer to being driverless, and automated kiosks are replacing service people in grocery stores and restaurants, in some cases almost entirely. Technology is getting better and increasingly less expensive to produce, and it's only going to be easier and easier to buy a machine and pay a slightly increased electric bill versus hiring and training a human to do the same task. A machine can operate virtually 24/7/365 without breaking a sweat — no human can come close to that performance, and we're not even going to go into the differences in the speed, accuracy, and power machines can have compared to humans, let alone computation ability. We estimate that within 50 to 100 years, machines will exceed human performance in virtually every task and human labor will no longer be necessary at all. It's true, people have been making predictions of this sort about AI for a while now and not all of them have panned out, but what cannot be disputed is that technology and automation have nevertheless been getting better and better over time, so — unless we manage to kill ourselves in global nuclear war first — it is all but inevitable that AI and automation will reach a point in which all human jobs are replaced, however long it takes. Do you think it's just going to reach some level where it can't get any better, and we'll throw our hands up and say, "Okay, let's just stop improving AI from here!" No, that will almost certainly not happen. Humans are a stubborn bunch and there will always be some of us with the passion and drive to improve our lives. So unless we wipe ourselves out by destroying our planet or some other means, technology will eventually reach a point where humans are obsolete. This is a fact of reality we are going to have to face someday, and probably sooner than most people think.

Once this happens, it won't matter what people do, people can just do what they want to do. In fact, the very concept of "laziness" won't really have the same meaning, it'll just be a choice you make. Some people will do things which help advance humanity, while others will prefer a life of leisure, but can we really say whether one is "better" than the other?

In terms of whether people will tend to be lazy in general if they had no requirement to work... we can say without a doubt that's not the case for most people. You can be sure that after being overworked as most of us have been our entire lives, many people will want to take a break for a while if we were suddenly given the opportunity to. However, many of us have already experienced something like this: for many of us there were times in our life when we didn't want to face the struggles of the real world, when we may have worked but only with the bare minimum effort to keep our jobs. Those times when we sunk most of our free time into video games or binge-watching TV or self-medicating with drugs to avoid having to think about the difficulties of the real world... After a while though, this is generally not fulfilling to us; eventually, we want to move on. Humans get bored of the same things eventually — whether it's a song played over and over or one mindless video game after another. We tend towards novelty, towards change and growth. Although some people will certainly work more than others, we don't believe that in general most people will lead lazy, unproductive lives. But again, it won't matter in the long run. The debate over whether humans are naturally lazy or not is irrelevant because it is an inevitability that our machines will exceed human performance in all tasks, likely in the next 50-100 years but even if it takes longer, it will happen eventually. Factories today already pump out products at rates far exceeding what a human can do for the same product and we are only going to make them better and better until such a time when humans can no longer do any task better than a machine, and it's not going to just stop there! We will continue to make them better and better (why wouldn't we?) and so eventually humans will be so inferior to a machines in doing work that there'll be no need for us to. Life from that point on will just be about doing what we want to do; there will be no work that we "have" to do anymore.

How will the community survive in the long term if you don't use money?

We won't use money amongst ourselves, but that doesn't mean we won't have money that we hold on to in a shared account in order to continue buying things from the rest of the world (while it still depends on money). So while the goal of the community is ultimately to be entirely self-sufficient — we will grow our own food, we will have our own doctors, engineers, construction workers, and whatever we need to maintain the community — in the beginning we will still likely have to pay for certain things such as access to the internet, buying various things like equipment, vehicles, building supplies, and things like that. With proper planning, the initial funding should cover all of that since we will simply scale the community design to fit comfortably within our budget. But once we have the community built and people are able to live happily and freely, do you think it will just stop there? With a community of people that are provided for and taken care of, with all the efficiency in how the community is organized and operated, and with everyone free to pursue our passions, do you really think we will not be able to produce anything of value? We're not making a 17th-century farming village, we're making a highly sophisticated modern community that will be filled with bright minds from all over the world. Many of our members will likely be running companies within the community, making amazing products for the world, and the income from those projects will be more than enough to sustain and grow the community. The thing is, once you are part of a community like the one we propose, there's no need for personal wealth: all the money would simply be pooled and used in a way that best enhances everyone's lives. So all the money that other people make from the things they do, whether they start a company or make awesome music or design products, all of that will go back into the community to help us grow and flourish even more. There are numerous projects we want to start — starting the Infinite Love non-profit organization and building our community is just the beginning!

What happens if you fail? What's the backup plan?

Fail? This question is kind of nonsensical to us, because failure implies giving up. Despite the challenges we face, the vast majority of adults in the world successfully manage to live largely through our own individual efforts. It's not always luxurious and certainly far from the ideal situation for most of us, but ultimately we are able to find places to stay, get food and money for ourselves, and do what we can to make ourselves comfortable. Do you really think that when 20, 50, or 100 of us get together that we'll do a worse job of living than we do on our own? Though there are some obvious challenges that can arise when any group of people are living and working together, with a reasonable organizational and leadership structure there is effectively no chance that the community we ultimately create will be worse than living in today's world by ourselves — the question is simply how much the improvement will be at each of the phases. Communities like the one we aim to build are inevitable; we are not the only people who recognize the failings of capitalism and wage labor and it's only a matter of time until enough people are made aware of the issues and more communities pop-up like we propose. The real question you should be asking yourself is: Why wait any longer when we can start now?

Are there other resources I can check out that discuss these topics in more detail?

Absolutely! We are currently in the process of drafting our own whitepaper, but in the meantime we recommend reading the whitepaper of our sister group The Zeitgeist Movement, which provides an in-depth examination of many of the issues we've talked about. If you prefer to pick up a book from your local library or bookstore, we recommend checking out The New Human Rights Movement by Peter Joseph. We are currently in the process of compiling a list of related projects and resources which we will add here as well when ready. Stay tuned to our YouTube channel or podcast for updates, and hop over to our Discord if you have any more questions. 🙂

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